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					<description><![CDATA[South Coast Register A CLAIM by the Nowra RSPCA that two dogs in its care had found homes when in fact they had been put down has upset animal advocates. On the RSPCA Nowra Facebook page a photo was posted of a group of people with six dogs on July 29. At least two of [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>A CLAIM by the Nowra RSPCA that two dogs in its care had found homes when in fact they had been put down has upset animal advocates.</p>
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<div>On the RSPCA Nowra Facebook page a photo was posted of a group of people with six dogs on July 29.</div>
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<p>At least two of those dogs had been euthanased by the RSPCA, bringing into doubt the organisation’s claims of the number of animals it adopts out.</p>
<p>The Facebook issue was raised by Tony Twining, a volunteer with the Nowra branch of the RSPCA shelter between February and May this year.</p>
<p>Mr Twining said the two dogs that he knew about, Reg and Max, had been put down in May.</p>
<p>“When the RSPCA published this on Facebook saying these dogs had found their forever homes they knew those two dogs were dead,” Mr Twining said.</p>
<p>“I’m upset that I’m in that photo, it’s quite offensive, I feel like I’m complicit in that lie.</p>
<p>“I am also concerned that it is still on their Facebook page.</p>
<p>“RSPCA NSW CEO Steve Coleman claims to have investigated the issue but the page is still there,” Mr Twining said.</p>
<p>The Register contacted Mr Coleman who confirmed that photo did appear on the RSPCA Facebook page but believed it had been taken down.</p>
<p>“I understand where he [Mr Twining] was coming from,” he said.</p>
<p>“He’s obviously annoyed we’ve misled people. Some days later one of those dogs had been euthanased. It was never the intent to mislead or misrepresent anything at the time when that photo and caption went up.</p>
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<div>“We’re an organisation that isn’t perfect and is striving to do better, but the energy needs to be channelled into reducing the number of animals brought to us,” Mr Coleman said.</div>
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<p>Lawyers for Companion Animals principal Anne Greenaway is an animal welfare campaigner who believes the organisation is more concerned with making money than animal welfare.</p>
<p>“This is not the first report I am aware of that the NSW RSPCA has stated that an animal has found a home when in fact the animal has been killed,” Ms Greenaway said.</p>
<p>“RSPCA counselled Tony Twining on his comments on a Facebook page, yet they did not and still have not removed their false comments on that same Facebook page, despite being fully aware that the comments were false.”</p>
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<p>Terrible to think they ring people up and make them aware when their surrender animal has been rehomed&#8230; who knows how many people are happy to know their once loved pet is with another loving family when really the animal has been euthanized!!</p>
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<p>This is just another example of the RSPCA being more concerned about its image and bank balance than the animals it professes to care about. Mr Coleman, what *are* you doing to try to reduce the number of animals brought to you? Wide-spread free desexing would be a good place to start, wouldn&#8217;t it?</p>
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<p>I will never ever donate money to the RSPCA, they don&#8217;t do the right thing a lot of the time and still they get funding of millions of dollars. My hard earned money will be going to small no kill shelters who have to do all their wn fund raising with no help from the government. Check out Facebook, there are any amount of them, mostly run by volunteers who are real animal lovers.</p>
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<p>A campaign to encourage donations to your local rescue groups who scour the pounds for cats and dogs that can be rehomed instead of the RSPCA perhaps.</p>
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<p>This is unacceptable. Thankyou Tony for standing up and alerting us to this behavior. And thankyou to all the people from the staff who care to the people who rescue and foster. And to put it nicely may the fleas of a thousand unwanted dogs and cats infest the underwear of all those who dont love and take care of animals they are responsible for. Get your act together RSPCA!</p>
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<p>&#8220;1. Animals have an intrinsic value of their own and, accordingly, must be considered to possess the right to live in a way which enables them to have a positive life and to develop and enjoy their inherent qualities.&#8221; This is the first paragraph of their own charter. The kill rate they employ and the standards in use at the moment make it very easy for them to euthanaise and dispose of animals who would be taking up funds that may be better self serving to some Executive. Their CEO Steve Coleman always has a well rehearsed spin response whenever their misdeeds are exposed, which he repeats ad nauseum. The Inspectorate and other Executive moved from Yagoona some time ago, where rents were nil to the Olympic Complex where according to recent Annual Reports the costs are in excess of half million dollars p.a. Then we have 2 of the past Presidents who undertake prosecutions on their own behalf. The amounts of money going to their own firms is staggering. One case alone, a single 70+ lady in the central west of NSW, in the middle of the drought has been billed in excess of $450000.00 for &#8216;legal costs&#8221; &#8211; payable to them of course. There are far more excesses on record about the actions of certain parties at the very top.To raise some of these actions, results in immediate threat of massive court actions, paid for by &#8211; yep, you guessed it &#8211; out of cupcake drives, million paws walks, branch fund raising etc. Take a look at their current web site. Many ways to donate, very few on the help they offer. The sooner certain carpet bagger style persons are removed the sooner the Society will return to their old and intrinsic values.</p>
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<p>To dispel a couple of misconceptions/myths: the RSPCA does NOT OWN the Nowra shelter, the Council does. This means that the RSPCA is limited in what it can and cannot put in &#8211; only &#8216;things&#8217; which can be taken if they fail to win the contract when it comes up for renewal. The RSPCA Nowra Branch is NOT the shelter &#8211; the Branch pays for items for the shelter. Some shelters are owned by the RSPCA, but not the Shoalhaven &#8211; those owned by the RSPCA are not limited in what they can have, the Shoalhaven shelter is. Take note Adam Wright &#8211; as a &#8216;reporter&#8217; you should be doing your homework prior to writing inflammatory articles (I think it&#8217;s termed &#8216;getting both sides of the story&#8217;).</p>
<p>I have no idea what RSPCA NSW does with all the money it receives &#8211; apart from updating the Yagoona shelter (which needed it badly) and paying the inspectors (who put up with a lot of crap [although one inspector deserves what s/he gets] from the public when doing their job (with limited resources) and the education section (may go to schools, etc, to educate only when a request has been put to the various RSPCA education teams). Don&#8217;t beat the inspectors, NSW is a large State (much, much larger than the ACT, and the inspectors have so much more territory to cover. Animals are given &#8216;extension of life&#8217; (to put it crudely) by being sent to other shelters around the State to better their chances. Nowra Shelter is small, it cannot hold all the animals it receives (nor has the funds to do so), and if no other shelter is willing to take an animal, unfortunately &#8230; . Blame the Council if you wish to divvy blame &#8211; there is no maximum to the number of animals on a property, suburbia or country; there is no law against back yard breeders, either! Wandering animals and strays are, by law, to go the Shelter.</p>
<p>Charging for animals at the shelter: duh! Do people honestly think the shelters should just give away animals that have not been &#8216;fixed&#8217; so the back yard breeders and those who mistreat animals (prevalent in the Shoalhaven) can continue to contribute to the misery of animals? They are no doubt acquiring animals from the newspaper which are being given away for some reason or other, as it is! The costs are for the microchipping, vaccinations, any medical treatment the animal enters the pound (flea treatment, deworming), etc. What do you want, people? Freebies? Don&#8217;t mistake the shelters for the head office of RSPCA: the individual shelters still have to raise their own funds; the head office divvies funds between all the shelters on an &#8216;as needed&#8217; basis (or so it appears).</p>
<p>Bequests and wills: let&#8217;s just say &#8216;BullS()^&#8217; to such scaremongering comments. Do a bit of research before making such comments, please. It&#8217;s fantastic that people are making comments against euthanasia and wastage of funds, but it is NOT the RSPCA as a whole, so don&#8217;t mislead other readers with your comments. Don&#8217;t subject all RSPCA folk with cranky, vitriolic (albeit heartfelt!) comments of condemnation and damnation. Reserve them for the deserving!</p>
<p>I would love the Australian Government (and local Council) to get their acts together and bring in an ASPCA (American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals) AND animal specific poisons centre (which the US also has, by the way) style of laws and regulations, but they won&#8217;t (as opposed to can&#8217;t &#8211; similar to the live export trade where it is also a matter of won&#8217;t, not can&#8217;t).</p>
<p>I totally agree with many comments here, in spite of being a contributor to and member of the local RSPCA branch, but don&#8217;t bite all of us, please. There are some duds, but there are also many of us who are genuine in their attempts to change things for the better. It is, however, up to local Councils and the Australian Government (whoever is in &#8211; no presiding Government has had the gumption to change laws re animal welfare (live exports a prime example, as are back yard breeders and animal farmers). It is the magistrates and judges who give lenient sentences, if any!, and fines to perpretrators &#8211; leaving the RSPCA way out of pocket in expenses. Go after them, not the inspectors or the RSPCA.</p>
<p>In leaving: I have also had &#8216;words&#8217; with the powers that be over animal welfare issues (RSPCA, Council, local members); feel free to write also, don&#8217;t just voice you disapproval in a comments section &#8211; that will NOT get action!</p>
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<p>RSPCA NSW has the highest euthanasia rate of any state and we know why. They have such blatant disregard for the animals in their care and would prefer to kill them than work with reputable rescue groups. Steve Coleman wont name them and interestingly no one has come forward&#8230; More lies ?? it will only be when the donations start drying up that they will pay attention. Exploiting animals for a photo opportunity and and a bit of PR to fool people into giving donations and then killing them several days later is just vile. Only RPSCA ACT tries to save them and the rest ride on their success.</p>
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<p>The RSPCA NSW should be the subject of a public investigation into how it uses it&#8217;s money and resources and why, given those resources that it clearly has, why it&#8217;s rehoming rates are so low compared to best practice animal shelters around the world. Also RSPCA should be stripped of its animal cruelty mandate as it clearly cannot do both well &#8211; animal cruelty prosecution AND animal shelters. One or the other , but not both</p>
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<p>How low can you go&#8230;to use the animals for fundraising before killing and to lie. Can&#8217;t use &#8216;didn&#8217;t pass the behavioural test&#8217; excuse here, as these dogs were trusted enough to be with the general public.</p>
<p>I use to be a foster carer for RSPCA Yagoona. My last two foster Mum cats would have been euthanased as they were not coping at the Shelter. A friend was good enough to adopt one for half price &#8230; has they had 1/2 price promotions at the time. With the other, I adopted, the RSPCA knew I only adopted to save but they still charged me full price for the adoption. A pensioner who was a foster carer had to pay full price for a cat she didn&#8217;t want, to save from being put down&#8230;despite the fact she was a long term fundraiser for them&#8230;once again how low can you go?</p>
<p>I had a litter of kittens &#8230; two didn&#8217;t find homes immediately so became sick with the flu at the Shelter. A RSPCA Vet phoned me to foster the kittens again, or they would be euthanased. This is after I had already treated the kittens for flu and ringworm before. What if I had gone on holidays during that time? I now wonder whether they would have been truthful to me about killing and about the others I have fostered. How can one trust the RSPCA?</p>
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<p>&#8220;The energy needs to be channelled into reducing the number of animals brought &#8221; says Steve Coleman. I think that the RSPCA are in the ideal situation&#8211;because they are a well-known organisation , financially it is affordable for them-and because they have a voice that the government hears &#8211;to do something about de-sexing of companion animals&#8211;and making it affordable for those sectors of our community who cannot afford de-sexing at a vet.How about mobile de- sexing vans that can travel to the places where this is so needed. Nor do I accept that this is the problem. I strongly disagree with you Steve Coleman. When Nathan Winograd worked with shelters in the USA he found that No Kill was not only possible &#8211;but achievable. He worked with the public in the areas where the shelters were and he found that overwhelmingly local people wanted to help re-home animals. He proved this in 3 very different parts of the USA. The RSPCA should try it&#8211;instead of killing so many animals who have the mis-fortune to end up in an RSPCA shelter. The Australian public are not going to stand by and watch so many precious animals be killed. Stand up and be counted Steve Coleman</p>
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<p>&#8220;He&#8217;s obviously annoyed we&#8217;ve misled people&#8221; wow&#8230;I thought Mr. Coleman was adept at misleading people. I know I was misled about the RSPCA until I heard about their massive kill-rates, their $40 million hefty share and investment portfolio, and their $10 million profit last year, all accumulated at the expense of the healthy dogs and cats ruthlessly killed by this so-called animal welfare organisation. Now I hear about this latest pathetic incident. What a sad and offensive way to hoodwink the community.</p>
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<p>God, how disgusting you have become RSPCA, you might as well become a serial killer for animals, you dont care for them your all bloody money hungry, SHAME SHAME ON YOU&#8230;. I am no longer donating to your pockets..</p>
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<p>Unacceptable RSPCA !!! What else are you lying about ? Your euthanasia stats are disgraceful and you are taking donations to save animals on false pretences. You will be held accountable for misleading the public make no mistake. Enough is enough .</p>
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<p>How many times can the RSPCA do this BEFORE something is done??? Oh I forgot THEY are the only ones who can make a valid complaint to the court!!</p>
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<p>How long is the RSPCA going to get away with all the lies and killing of healthy animals?? It has gone on for long enough, too many animals have been killed for no reason!! It&#8217;s about time the RSPCA were held accountable for the disgusting happenings within their network!!</p>
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<p>Used to attend million paws walk, hold a regular stall and donate our takings to the RSPCA, but not now. The RSPCA has gone over to the dark side. Instead of being an organisation which educates and persuades people, it has become part of the modern day state apparatus. Like DOCS, it now knocks on your door and demands to see your pet. Next we will see manditory notifications for allegedly abused pets. I stopped supporting the RSPCA when they started acting like the Gestapo. Going out to people&#8217;s homes without permission; jumping fences when the owner isn&#8217;t at home. Claiming they know best when you should see the way they treat animals in their care at the Nowra pound. No the RSPCA has lost its way. More interested in reality TV shows and playing to the media than in their sacred duty to help animals</p>
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Quite a lot of us are, obviously, very annoyed.</p>
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<p>the RSPCA runs the Nowra pound ( along with many other ones ) &amp; they charge people $100 to surrender an animal with them &amp; if you go there to adopt a dog they charge $320.Even if the animal that is surrendered has already been desexed they still get $320 for the dog.I just have to wonder where all the money goes???Mr Coleman said they need to work on not getting so many animals surrendered&#8230;.well perhaps with all their profits they are making they could offer people a reduction in the cost of desexing dogs or cats.To me that would make better sense than having all that money in a bank account.It would be like investing in the future for the betterment of animals.Sorry but I have lost faith in the RSPCA</p>
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<p>What on earth is this??!!!!,..RSPCA are you just a money making business?.I thought so&#8230;I bet you have nice homes, money, holidays and those like me, millions of fellow contributors and advocates don&#8217;t have enough food to eat every day because we send it to you, so our beloved animals are saved, not KILLED. How many more have you been killing!?. The money you get and other KILL shelters get is to keep your business going, is that it?.Thats what it is, just business for you all. I believe you have stopped caring for animals, and this is not first time that a killing of an animal in your care had happened.Someone must look into the way RSPCA and KILL SHELTERS run their so-called businesses and find where the money really does go.</p>
<p>It is time to get rid of organisations who take money and do with it as they please. The money is to SAVE animals not KILL them. Be rid of councils and institutions that KILL, period..It is 2012 and the time is now. People are not stupid!.You had your way, and in the past have excused your actions and today are still doing the same thing, but what you need to truly realise, is that these excuses are costing innocent beatuful lives of these animals. People will not accept the killings. What is needed now, is to have a thorough investigation and consequences need to be issued. People need to pay for these cruel and uncessessary mistakes. Millions have been given to you and many other places and there was always an enormous amounts of donations and advocates contributing to the cause to actually save lives. I feel sick to think being a fellow advocate and regular contributor to bear witness to these actions. You would had been better to invested in the prevention of all KILL Shelters, which we have and DO NOT want! and save ANIMALS than what you&#8217;ve been doing.</p>
<p>I pity you and places like yours. I pitty you all.</p>
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<p>They should watch Animal Planet. The shows on there about the different ASPC&#8217;S in America show how it really should be here in Australia. These officers really care about the animals and don&#8217;t worry about the money. l don&#8217;t donate to them anymore either. l prefer to donate to Pets Haven in Victoria as they do a fantastic job with the animals.</p>
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<p>how do we know that the animals didnt develop a illness suddenly when they were meant to be adopted- wont be a first nor last time that has occured- how many pet shop pets look healthy then are violently ill not long later? you cant blame the staff at these shelters for things out of their control. Nowra shelter is doing a great job at rehoming and transfering animals to try to find them homes &#8211; shame other shelters cant say the same &#8211; Perhaps people should try working where these staff do rather than sittingin their high horse- it is a horrible jo at times and they have to switch off or send themselves mad with the work they do. all good for you bleeding earts who want to help.</p>
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<p>Whyme in reply to your post<br />
&#8220;how do we know that the animals didn&#8217;t develop a illness suddenly when they were meant to be adopted&#8221;<br />
we know because the RSPCA have a kill rate of just under 50% and if these dogs had died of an illness as you suggest then you can bet your life that the RSPCA spin would have had sad pics of them all over the media asking for donations for them.<br />
And please don&#8217;t lecture us on what a hard job they have-what the hell do you think most of us do?, thats right we scramble around to try and save animals before the RSPCA gets their hands on them and we save and rehome more then the NSW RSPCA.<br />
So yes, these dogs did die from an illness, its an illness called self interest and greed.<br />
Agree it must be a horrible job at times, thank goodness that most of us are non kill or very low kill.<br />
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<p>well you clearly are tarring all shelters with same brush. I have no doubt some have terrible records BUT i DO know that nowra shleter has had a massive change in thinking and rehoming &#8211; unlike a few years ago they now do as much as possible. unfortunatley cost is prohbitive and i dont think anyone can save &#8216;no/low kill&#8217; if they are realsitic. I persoannly have seen many dogs that should not of been rehomed for aggressive/behaviour issues that endanger other animals and people- yet they bend over backward to help as best they can but many should never be rehomed . Shame more people dont take into account the people who have to pick up the pieces of these dogs taht are rehomed that shouldnt be</p>
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<p>whyme-we are so tied of that rubbish &#8220;unfortunatley cost is prohbitive&#8221; what a load of rubbish, NSW RSPCA made a profit last year of nearly $10 million- rescue groups have shown how it can be done and they dont get paid a cent! .<br />
Again if the RSPCA cant do the job-get out of the bloody way and let us in.</p>
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<p>This is not about the animals suddenly getting sick. This is about KNOWINGLY lying on Facebook and failing to correct the record. The CEO was written to about this issue yet the lie remained on Facebook until media got involved.</p>
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<p>My question to Steve Coleman is why has the Nowra RSPCA now taken down the Facebook photo and lies that were told. Surely the decent thing to do would be to CORRECT THE RECORD and tell the truth, rather than just remove the photo as if these lies never occurred.</p>
<p>It is most regrettable that there is no OMBUDSMAN for the RSPCA. If there was, I have no doubt this office would be inundated with complaints.</p>
<p>“He’s obviously annoyed we’ve misled people.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes Steve, many people are upset and annoyed, not just the brave Tony Twinning who came forward in this matter, after writing a detailed letter to yourself on 4 September 2012.</p>
<p>Animal lovers are sick to death of the lies and spin.</p>
<p>Please expect more adverse media stories, while RSPCA NSW continues to lie and continues to reject NO KILL strategies which have been proven to save lives.</p>
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<p>RSPCA is an absolute disgrace. When will they be accountable for their actions? When will the animals in their care become a priority??</p>
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<p>More RSPCA lies, no surprises there. Imagine how many more we don&#8217;t know about. I have an RSPCA T-shirt that I won&#8217;t wear because it would be supporting them. Time to get out the marking pen, adjust the shirt and let people know the truth. I say a royal commission into the Royal Society!</p>
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<p>RSPCA saying &#8216;dog has found a new home&#8217; sounds very much like that old story told to children that their pet has gone to live on a lovely big farm where they can run free and chase rabbits but they can never go to visit them&#8230;..</p>
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<p>Where is the accountability? Receiving millions in donations and government grants and still killing healthy rehomable dogs. This should be one for ICAC&#8230;.not good enough RSPCA&#8230;RIP poor dogs</p>
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<p>Geez Kath, take a breath. Been burn&#8217;t by the RSPCA eh? Leave the hate and concentrate on solving the &#8216;problem&#8217; of dogs and our society.</p>
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<p>Problem is the organisation is not accountable nor transparent. Question is; is their main reason for existence to pull in donations thereby ensuring jobs? Just because this charity appears to be there for animals doesnt mean their actions underpin their appearance. And it doesnt mean that all those employed actually give a toss about animals either.<br />
Please dont think this problem is isolated to NSW. Tasmania and Western Australia operations are I understand just as dodgy. Cases not prosecuted when the evidence is strong enough for a prosecution, information to members about vet attention supposedly given to animals which appears to be quite misleading&#8230;and on it goes.</p>
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what sort of message does this action send out to the public. heartless murderers.<br />
I used to donate and support RSPCA but since working in rescue personally have learnt the dirty back door tactics of the rspca and the underhanded lies and misconceptions they put out. more funds and support thanany other animal organisation and still senslessy murdering innocent rehomable pets. im disgusted and saddened</p>
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<p>RSPCA refuse to work with other rescue groups to help reduce the numbers in thier care. What a load of rubbish from the money spinners!</p>
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<p>I think RSPCA needs investigating. People donate money thinking it will be used towards helping animals&#8230;.THIS IS NOT THE CASE obviously:( I am just so disgusted and angry that the people are being deceived over and over. I will NEVER donate to RSPCA ever again. Also I live in regional NSW and the RSPCA has NO interest in helping any animals at risk out here.</p>
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<p>Another dirty little secret exposed of a multi million dollar organization who not only failed these poor dogs but continues to fail in so many other ways. The media spin is finally being questioned by the very people who have for so long been the true voice of animal welfare-The rescuers.</p>
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<p>Steve Coleman, says &#8220;&#8230;we are an organisation striving to do better&#8221; The RSPCA is certainly striving to do better in terms of its wealthy share and investments, and the profits it makes, $10 million last year. Sadly, the kill rate for dogs and cats is 50% doesn&#8217;t seem to be much striving to save, and rehome the animals in their care. All the companion animals in their dubious &#8220;care&#8221; could be saved if Mr. Coleman was as sincere about animal welfare, as he is about accumulating profits.</p>
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<p>I used to help the RSPCA but NO MORE! I think the organisation stinks they do not care for animal welfare at all. Look at how much money is raised by them. All monies just go into investments and not into saving dogs, plus their temperament testing is outrageous! Where is the skill?? All my dogs I saved (I have 3 dogs) were saved from a local pound and if they had gone into the RSPCA wouldn&#8217;t have stood a chance. They are now well behaved, loving and well loved dogs. It takes time with some dogs to bring them around, after all if you were lost, abused or starved, and fearful of your life wouldn&#8217;t you be nervous and timid and if you were hungry, wouldn&#8217;t you try to keep your food and not let someone take it away.</p>
<p>This organisation needs to wake up to itself. It needs investigating URGENTLY.</p>
<p>I run a business and so do many of friends all animals lovers. No funds will ever go RSPCA way again!</p>
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<p>I find this very disturbing. If that picture wasn&#8217;t meant to mislead anyone&#8230;why say the dogs had found a home..after they were already dead. I can see donations dropping off after this.</p>
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<p>Another day; another RSPCA coverup. How long will this be allowed to continue?<br />
Wake up people of NSW &#8211; our taxes are subsidising the killing of perfectly healthy, rehomable animals. Other organisations have save statistics ten times higher than the RSPCA branches in the same areas. Literally &#8211; ten times higher!<br />
And for those well meaning people who donate to the RSPCA or leave bequests in their wills &#8211; rest assured, it is far more likely that your gift will be used to buy the drugs used to kill animals than it is that it will be used to save them.<br />
Shame RSPCA shame. No wonder Mr Coleman chooses to communicate through 20 second soundbites rather than participate in a debate. Big thumbs down.</p>
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<p>I do not understand the mentality of the RSPCA in this matter.</p>
<p>Surely by saying that 2 out of the 6 dogs had to be put down because they were unable to re-home them would be a better approach as it could be the catalyst for more people to become involved with adopting unwanted pets.</p>
<p>If people see that they have a 100% success rate then they may not become involved due to thinking it is all under control.</p>
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<p>I think it is disgusting that the RSPCA has mislead the good natured and generous people who donate to them, by using these dogs for fundraising, then kill them afterwards. Given the RSPCA made around $10 million profit last year, has something like around $40 million invested in shares &amp; investments, got a $7.5 million grant from the state government, plus millions in donations, it&#8217;s high time that the RSPCA were held accountable for their actions.<br />
This event, the killing of these two dogs, is just the latest in a series of issues involving the RSPCA. Why do they have such a high kill rate for companion animals exceeding 50% when local community groups, working with council run pounds, can achieve far better? Why can pounds throughout the Central Coast and Hunter Valley regions get kill rates between 4% and 12%, whilst the RSPCA can&#8217;t get near it? Why won&#8217;t the RSPCA work with community based rescue groups? Why does the RSPCA have a behavioural test which kills far more than it saves? Why can the RSPCA branch in the ACT gain a kill rate of only 6.5% yet the NSW branch can&#8217;t?<br />
What is the RSPCA NSW doing with all the money they get? Does it go into saving the lives of the animals in their care or into their investment portfolio? Clearly the money raised didn&#8217;t go towards the saving of these two poor dogs.</p>
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<p> <img loading="lazy" decoding="async" title="Lawyer for Companion Animals Anne Greenaway wants to challenge RSPCA NSW CEO Steve Coleman on national television." src="http://cdn.fairfaxregional.com.au/preview/c1200x678/storypad-gQFChmftLwURjFztaywNzt/b47cd96b-4941-47d2-b0a9-0afad5f708f9" alt="Lawyer for Companion Animals Anne Greenaway wants to challenge RSPCA NSW CEO Steve Coleman on national television." width="727" height="410" data-media-host="http://cdn.fairfaxregional.com.au/" data-original="/storypad-gQFChmftLwURjFztaywNzt/b47cd96b-4941-47d2-b0a9-0afad5f708f9" data-fixed-size="large" /></p>
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<p>LAWYER for Companion Animals Anne Greenaway has put forward a challenge to debate the NSW RSPCA CEO Steve Coleman on television about the statistics within the RSPCA report for 2011.</p>
<p>The lawyer wants to challenge the medical and behavioural reasons for the excessive animal killings occurring daily within the state.</p>
<p>Ms Greenaway is calling for the RSPCA to make the temperament test or behavioural assessment, available to the public.</p>
<p>“I fail to understand how open admission council pounds working with community rescue groups have kill rates under 20 per cent,” she said.</p>
<p>“Yet the RSPCA kill rate is over 50 per cent for cats and dogs combined.”</p>
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<p>Ms Greenaway believes the RSPCA may be “engaging in misleading and deceptive conduct with some of the claims they make”.</p>
<p>“I am aware of people who have complained to the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission alleging the RSPCA has engaged in misleading conduct,” she said.</p>
<p>Ms Greenaway recently provided information to SBS program Insight, for an episode aired last week which highlighted kill rates occurring in council pounds and shelters around Australia.</p>
<p>The lawyer hoped the show would make the public more aware of the large numbers of companion animals being killed each year.</p>
<p>“I think the RSPCA also needs to be more transparent with the rescue groups they work with and I would like to know how many animals they released to rescue groups last year.”</p>
<p>The RSPCA have agreed the amount of companion animals being killed each year in Australia is “appalling.”</p>
<p>An RSPCA spokesperson said while figures may appear high, “at a closer glance of 4862 dogs euthanised by the RSPCA in the last financial year, 62 per cent were put down due to behavioural problems and and 35 per cent because of disease and medical conditions”.</p>
<p>RSPCA NSW CEO Steve Coleman said, “Because of our open door policy, we take in animals that are sick, injured, abused, neglected and unwanted.”</p>
<p>“A number of these animals are deemed dangerous or downright cruel to be kept alive,” he said.</p>
<p>“As a result our staff make the difficult decision to euthanise animals on a daily basis.”</p>
<p><a href=" http://www.dailyliberal.com.au/story/370058/state-debate-proposed-for-rspca-on-animal-kill-rates/?cs=112">http://www.dailyliberal.com.au/story/370058/state-debate-proposed-for-rspca-on-animal-kill-rates/?cs=112</a></p>
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<p>Gee, what makes CEO Steve Coleman of the RSPCA have to defend himself by saying they take in sick, injured,abused, neglected and unwanted animals?  They have their OWN staff, their OWN veterinary clinics (not run at a loss) and the public&#8217;s money.  All of us private rescuers and rescue groups do the same thing on our OWN scratchy funds.  Hopefully their days are numbered in the way they operate.</p>
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<p>Yes rescue groups take is sick, old, young timid and afraid cats and dogs.</p>
<p>They do not &#8220;cherry pick&#8221; the best animals from the pounds. It has been often inferred that the rescue groups take only the &#8220;good&#8221; animals. Do people who make these claims bother to go and look at the discarded animals that end up in the council pounds that rescue groups rescue from? The ones that end up in the pounds are not perfectly groomed, perfectly behaved cats and dogs of perfect health. But the rescue groups give these neglected animals a second chance.</p>
<p>I still want to know why COUNCIL POUNDS working with rescue groups have a higher save rate than the RSPCA NSW.</p>
<p>And I want to see the temperament test that several people have asked for yet RSPCA NSW has not made publicly available. It is in the public interest that this test be made publicly available to all those, particularly those who donate money to the RSPCA.</p>
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<p>How many animals (including livestock) do the RSPCA take in on a daily basis compared to the local pound?</p>
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<p>The RSPCA operate AS A POUND in alot of cases (well, in the RSPCAs that are local to me). So instead of Council taking the animal and putting it in the Pound, when a Council ranger picks up an animal they take it to the RSPCA and pay for the privilege of the RSPCA looking after it and putting it down. That&#8217;s where there is alot of friction, RSPCA are operating as a business for profit some believe not for the animals.</p>
<p>So depending on the location Council and location of the RSPCA it could range from a couple a week to a 100.</p>
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<p>Like to point out that only the Large centres in the city have their OWN vet clinics,most of the shelters rely on local vet clinics for their vet needs. Also that shelters that are also running pounds for councils often have to defer to the council in regards to how much vet care can be given to a stray animal (while the animal is in the pound it is considered a stray and council property) Quite often the councils will only allow basic vet care to be administered. If the price of the care is too much the council will authorise the putting down of the animal. The blame does not soley lay with the RSPCA who&#8217;s money goes to the care and feeding of the animals the PUBLIC has cast out. All I&#8217;m saying is don&#8217;t lay blame until both sides of the story have been seen. Do you know what the staff have to face every day?</p>
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<p>I don&#8217;t blame the staff &#8211; I blame the CEO. Why else would someone with not so great a CV earn $140k per year, if not to improve the bang for buck that his very generous patrons get in terms of providing better quality animal welfare than his predecessors for the same or less amount of money. I don&#8217;t know any other CEO who isn&#8217;t expected to improve his/her company during their tennure. If Steve Coleman doesn&#8217;t think he can improve conditions for animals then he should resign and let someone else, who might be better qualified, handle it.</p>
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<p>Actually, the vet clinic at Yagoona is privately owned and the RSPCA pay them much higher rates than my small rescue group get from our vet. This is one of the main things I would attack them about &#8211; wasting donated funds negligently.</p>
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<p>My donations now go to &#8216;No Kill Shelters&#8217; &#8211; not the RSPCA which is now run as a business venture.</p>
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<p>I have tranferred my donations to the &#8216;No Kill Shelters&#8217; &#8211; the RSPCA are reponsible for the mass killings of healthy dogs and cats &#8211; I want my donations to save lives&#8230;not destroy them. The RPCA lost my family&#8217;s support when I found out about their high kill rate.</p>
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<p>Allyway I can tell you the RSPCA runs at a loss. There is no profit. It costs more to prepare an animal for adoption than the adoption fee it self. This is then without the cost of wages, running costs etc. Euthanasia is terrible for anyone to deal with, the community seems to forget the animals come from the community. They should be the ones to be held accountable not the RSPCA</p>
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<p>Get off your soapbox woman. Build your own shelter with a no kill policy and see how long it takes for it to fill up with animals that are unwanted, or unsuitable for re-homing. Shelters do everything they can to save the lives of the animals in their care. They do not willingly choose to put animals to sleep.</p>
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<p> Aj, why don&#8217;t you go up to Animal Rights and Rescue group in the Nth Rivers region.<br />
Operating for many years as no kill ( saved over 15000 ) while all the time saving animals from deathrow pounds there AND offering assistance for desexing as well as handling all the cruelty cases in the area, ALL UNPAID.<br />
It can be done and with the $70 x in their coffers its about time they put their money where their mouths are-</p>
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<p> There are several no-kill shelters here in Perth WA which are not &#8216;filled up&#8217; with animals. They get rehomed after receiving the medical care and/or training they need. In the RSPCA NSW&#8217;s case, they are choosing to put animals to sleep when there are alternatives such as rescue or rehabilitation. We want to know why.</p>
<p>What would be the point of opening another no-kill shelter if animals brought to the RSPCA are still being killed?</p>
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<p>Well said, Aj but you have to remember, these do gooders are only interested in their side of the story. Not once have these people mentioned the good the RSPCA do.</p>
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<p>You are showing your ignorance Aj, if you think &#8220;shelters do everything they can to save the lives of the animals in their care&#8221;. Many simply open their doors (and often very limited hours too ie Lost Dogs Home North Melb) and pray that someone will arrive to adopt the animals in their care. Because they refuse to exhaust all avenues of assistance, ie rescue groups, foster care programes etc, they are unwittingly &#8220;willingly choosing to put their animals to sleep&#8221;&#8230;.. AKA killing their animals. Annie makes a very good point and I look forward to the debate with great interest.</p>
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<p>Remember, the RSPCA uses volunteers to help, as does Dubbo. They recently had trouble getting volunteers. Perhaps you could donate your time and help foster out all the animals that are dumped on their doorstep by the community.</p>
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<p>Put them to sleep or keep them caged&#8230;.Hmmm&#8230;.</p>
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<p>We live in a democratic society, Steve, free speech is a great gift to us all. We are waiting eagerly for this debate. Why are you hiding?  The public make generous donations  to the RSPCA. We all respond to your incessant fundraising. However, we are becoming disillusioned with your mantra of caring &#8216;for all creatures great and small.&#8217;  How about all the healthy cats, kittens, dogs and puppies we all hear about, all those little guys the RSPCA kills annually. I know the rescue groups manage to save and rehome many animals, and they do it  on a meagre budget. Come on, Steve, defend the annual killing of healthy animals.</p>
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<p>Steve Coleman, where are you?  The high kill rates at the RSPCA are outrageous. The public are asking for transparency, we want to know why such a wealthy organisation kills so many healthy cats and dogs.<br />
It is the rescue groups who fight to save &#8220;all creatures great and small..&#8221;  The RSPCA is letting the animals down&#8230;</p>
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<p>It is a sad state of affairs, when we cannot trust the RSPCA to care for stray, lost and abused animals.<br />
The rescue groups save lives, foster, and give animals a second-chance, and they work on a shoe-string budget. The &#8220;Insight&#8221; program, enlightened the public  about Steve Coleman&#8217;s lack of interest in a no-kill policy. I welcome a debate on these issues, hopefully the CEO, Steve Coleman will approach the challenge with his usual enthusiasm.<br />
I would like to hear Steve&#8217;s explanation for the behavioural and medical reasons cited as reasons for the daily high-kill rate.</p>
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<p>They have the &#8220;sick ones&#8221;, and the &#8220;dangerous ones&#8221; and the &#8220;feral ones&#8221; and then the &#8220;unsuitable for re-homing ones&#8221;, RSPCA can just about fit any animal to slot into one of those.<br />
Even cats are temp tested so I understand.<br />
Time to answer some questions RSPCA.</p>
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<p>There should be no &#8220;feral cats&#8221; in the<br />
pounds. What kind of stupidity collects a feral cat whose position in the<br />
ecology is pivotal in maintain the balance of &#8216;wildlife&#8221; and kill&#8217;s it;<br />
Immediately it is replayed by another (vacuum effect) and then continued to<br />
trap and kill to achieve what &#8220;status quo&#8221; now that is an entertaining<br />
idea. Every other country and county in the world are using Trap, Neuter and<br />
Return.Over 40 states in America alone use TNR some over 20 years and yet we<br />
have some very uneducated and ill informed &#8220;high profile&#8221; killing<br />
shelter killing these defenceless animals for the sheer pleasure or joy because<br />
they can be no other reason. Because it achieves nothing.</p>
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<p>Since when do feral cats have any sort of place in our ecology apart from destroying native wildlife?!  Cat&#8217;s are an introduced species in Australia, and they do a lot of damage.  Desexing them will not change that.  Apart from that, who is going to pay to desex all of the thousands of feral cats?</p>
<p>And you are an idiot if you think anyone euthanizes an animal for &#8216;pleasure&#8217;!</p>
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<p>Feral animals are not a part of our natural environment. That is why we have culls.</p>
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<p>Nobody is above the law and accountability is an issue here especially with the high rate of kill and the huge pound contracts. The public donate and expect their animals to be treated with compassion and humanely. It doesnt matter how you look at this animals being given unspecific and secret temp tests in a terrifying situation for an animal is not conducive to humane or truth. Shelters should not be allowed to take on contract for animals if they know that they do not have the capacity or time and funding to give those animals the best chance at being rehomed. There are hundreds of rescue groups that can take these pets on an are non kill. RSPCA say they are an open door pound&#8230;what is this&#8230;does this make it acceptable to take in an animal you know you cannot and will not rehome. Normal rescue groups refer them to a rescue group that can assure that it will find a home and not be killed . The small foster care rescue groups kill less than 1% these pounds kill 50%.</p>
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<p>Stop bullying the RSPCA and get to where the problems begin: Pet shops, puppy farms, etc. You wouldn&#8217;t have to kill them if they didn&#8217;t exist in the first place.</p>
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<p>Steve Coleman, speaks about an &#8220;open door policy&#8221; I would argue it is a closed door policy for all the companion animals killed annually. Once they enter the confines of the RSPCA there is a slim chance they will ever leave, especially, the cats and kittens,and the old, and frightened animals.The rescues give these animals a  &#8216;second chance&#8217; and they do it without all the fundraising carried out by Mr. Coleman&#8217;s organisation.<br />
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<p>The RSPCA&#8217;s unacceptably high kill rates of healthy cats and dogs is concerning. It is time for a  transparent investigation into this organisation. Steve Coleman, take up the challenge. I think you owe it to the public who donate generously to your organisation. We donate to save animals, not to kill them.</p>
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<p>The aim is to find homes for all re-homable pets ( this does include ill animals or those with aggression problems).Steve Coleman didn&#8217;t seem interested in this concept.Why can&#8217;t the NSW RSCPA follow in the footstep of ACT RSPCA?</p>
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<p>What I want to know, is how long have you worked in these places so you can then have a true view on their kill rate. Not ever animal can be rehabilitated. What about dogs that kill innocent people? Do we not put them down? Not every animal can be saved.</p>
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<p>Animal Rights and Rescue group Inc. Northern Rivers is a self funded voluntary group and has operated a<br />
No-Kill organisation since 1995. We take all unclaimed animals from Lismore, Casino, Kyogle pound and in this region over 50% of these pound rescues are neglected and or abused. Yet we never kill, all animal arrivals are given time to recover from emotional and physical abuse and all injured and sick animals given vet treatment and go to a carer to suit their needs. Special need animals timid/abused/old/disabled/underage animals go to a carers than can help provide the special care they need until they are ready to be rehomed.<br />
If small self-funded rescue groups like ARRG can rescue all unclaimed animals from 3 local pounds every week of the year and not find any reason to kill them, then how can the big wealthy groups justify the killing of the companion animals they rescue every day, week, year. Explain Temp testing now!<br />
Famous statement from USA Note: you can&#8217;t claim to rescue animals if you then kill them!</p>
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<p>What about the GOOD the RSPCA has done. I worked at a shelter for many years and rehomed over 100&#8217;s animals of all varieties. You make it sound like it was all for nothing. I know many other volunteers also did a lot of good and helped out even after they clocked off.</p>
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<p>Why is it that the RSPCA have 60 or 70 million dollars in their trust fund, but they can never NEVER do real eduction campaigns on a massive scale on desexing, Why? Because the men at the top make big pay packets every week. Here in North NSW we only have one RSPCA officer, which covers a massive area, the size of Tasmania. A total Joke. Don&#8217;t support RSPCA. They need to go right under the radar, it&#8217;s about time. How many animals go un checked or dismissed because it is way too hard for one inspector to cover all. Let alone the insane laws that Dept of Primary Industries need to let go of. These people are not qualified in animals. They are trained to do business and that&#8217;s it. It all ties in. They all work hand in hand and they all support exploiting animals for money. Give the local shelters the power to seize abused and neglected animals, and stop RSPCA from monopolising the shelters that sweat away in the sheds with not even any air conditioning. If they had the money to educate we would not have these issues, and the funding to offer free desexing!!! It is sickening that all these animals suffer and die each year, so many animals. Animals lives in Australia are cheap!</p>
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<p>Why are you just attacking the RSPCA in the first place, like Anne is? Have you people ever botherd to think of where these pets came from in the first place? Not every animal is suited to rehousing. Instead of getting on the band wagon of naive bleating and try to help out at the RSPCA. Lend a hand and try to help or even adopt some of these animals? All talk and no action makes for a boring conversation. I volunteered for many years and adopted in total five elderly dogs and four elderly cats. All I suggest is before you blindly follow the pied piper, go in to an RSPCA shelter, donate your time, help some animals and THEN give an opinion. It also helps to see things from other peoples perspectives, too, you know.</p>
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<p>Many have tried to work with the RSPCA. Many have had doors slammed in their faces by the RSPCA.</p>
<p>The RSPCA should be welcoming people who want to foster with OPEN ARMS.</p>
<p>Rescue groups welcome foster carers, hence their ability to save more animals.</p>
<p>Where is RSPCA temp test? Why can&#8217;t we be shown it?</p>
<p>Why are the stats for council pounds (who work with rescue) better than RSPCA??</p>
<p>Very simple questions. I want answers!</p>
<p>Barry, these issues need to be out in the open. The RSPCA is hardly going to get this in the open when it gets millions of dollars in council contracts but is quietly killing animals at the same time it claims to be protecting and caring for the very animals it is killing. How many people previously knew of the KILLING??. 250,000 cats and dogs killed is too much. The killing has to stop.</p>
<p>RSPCA has the ear of government.</p>
<p>Maria Macurio (VIC RSPCA CEO) last year said on 7.30 report (ABC TV) ANIMAL ACTIVISTS ARE LEADING THE WAY. Why is it that animal activists must lead the way. It should be the RSPCA that &#8220;leads the way&#8221;.</p>
<p>When the RSPCA starts leading the way I will shut up. Until then&#8230;&#8230;..watch this space. More to come!!!!</p>
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<p>This is the age of litigation: if the Rspca was to re-home a dog or cat that was aggressive and it turned on the owner they would be sued . Instead of having a go at people trying to save and re-home these animals shut down the puppy farms that are producing these cross bred mutts with stupid names (cavoodles,labradoodles etc) so that their just isnt the sheer volume of animals around in the first place. If people have to wait on a list for a purebred dog or cat they sure as heck will more likely take care of it and it wont end up in the situation of needing rescued.And I for one have taken 15 wild cats to the rspca, cute and furry they looked, but I needed to use long welding gloves to corner and catch them &#8211; good luck rehoming a feral cat.</p>
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<p> You seem to think that by allowing the RSPCA to continue to operate we are doing our pets a service. A &#8220;kill&#8221; service how can you justify keeping a high kill shelter open for business when there are a large amount of pound rescue groups working on the foster care system that could take on these extra animals if they had but a fraction of the funding that the RSPCA has. These rescues work without overheads, paid staff and massive infrastructure so all that squandered money would be spent directly on the animals. It works well in all the smaller groups I know some handling between 75 and 200 animals at one time and they are all re homed the sick are made better, the old are loved and respected, those that have been abused get a chance to heal and those that are not cute and fluffy also get a change at finding their forever home. I cannot see any positives in supporting this type of &#8220;shelter&#8221;.</p>
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<p>I find Steve Coleman, an impressive individual. My family and I watched him  on the &#8216;Insight&#8217; program.<br />
What a master he is at spin-doctoring! We commend Ms Greenaway for suggesting a debate with the debonair Mr. Coleman. We wish you well! My family and I will be watching with bated breath.<br />
I want Steve to explain the high-kill rates at the RSPCA. We need accountability, not more, propaganda,<br />
and nervous smiles from Steve.<br />
My family donated to the RSPCA for years, my grandparents always supported them, then Mum and Dad, then me and the wife, Doreen.  No more, the high-kill rates are shocking!  We give what we can to the rescue groups now!</p>
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<p>Why does she have to have a debate on TV? Why not just go in to a few shelters and see how things are run on a daily basis? Why not have a private interview? It is starting to sound like a publicity stunt to me. The RSPCA has been around for how many years? Are they only just killing animals? Do they ever rehome ANY animals? Is there only ONE side to this story? I suppose when you only want to be seen as being right, you do not really want to show the other side of the coin, do you?</p>
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<p>It still comes down to the irresponsibility of companion animal owners who are not prepared to take appropriate care of their animals, including vaccinations and desexing costs, and then handing the responsibility over to either the RSPCA or the council pounds.  How many of these animals are dumped, either in the bush &#8211; not good for native small animals or birds, or at the animal shelters? Get real, people, caring for any companion animal, whether dog, cat, guinea pig or budgie, brings great rewards, but it will cost you.  Grow up!</p>
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<p>Naive claptrap. Stop getting on the band wagon and hurting the people trying to do good. I tried to help injured animals for over 15 years. I tried rehoming as many as possible but money wise and personality wise: It was impossible to save every creature. Some people think every animal is capable of saving. People, THIS IS NOT THE CASE!!!</p>
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<p>What the staff have to face each day is bureaucracy and pressure from administrations who&#8217;s only interest is the bottom line (dollar). Pressure to put down pets that could be rehomed, but because they won&#8217;t resell as they&#8217;re not pretty enough, or a specific breed, or have medical conditions are euthenaised.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t even start me on the rubbish that well meaning members of the public are told when they call up because someone has moved out nextdoor and left there cat/cats behind.</p>
<p>The private rescue groups are run by people who are desperate to help, with no funding at all except their own. They don&#8217;t receive grants, they largely fly under the radar and so never see donations from members of the public.</p>
<p>How dare the RSPCA cry &#8216;poor us.&#8217;</p>
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<p>Thanks for that insight Rose.</p>
<p>Yes. I have heard from many ex RSPCA workers, people in shelters, Shelter managers, admin, ex directors on the Board, even inspectors, as well as many complaints from members of the public.</p>
<p>The issue you have raised about people moving is VERY IMPORTANT. RSPCA can take action for abandonment. It is an OFFENCE under POCTTA. I would be keen to know how many ABANDONMENT cases they prosecute. My guess &#8211; very few, if any!</p>
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<p>I support no kill shelters like kemps creeks! Keep up the good work!! Tim &amp; team</p>
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<p>Good on you, Rascally Rabbit! We can eliminate killing in our pounds and shelters. That is the reason I welcome an open debate on the mass killing of dogs and cats at the RSPCA.</p>
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<p>We need a blueprint to start saving animals, not killing them. I listened to the CEO of the RSPCA, Steve Coleman, he was steeped in a culture of killing healthy cats and dogs, in fact, his refusal to encompass a no-kill policy at the RSPCA, made me suspicious.<br />
It is not good enough to adopt out a few animals and kill the rest. The RSPCA is betraying the animals in its care, not to mention all its supporters whose donations allow the organisation to accumulate millions of dollars.</p>
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<p>The SBS Insight program has raised more questions that I&#8217;m sure Steve Coleman would wish were never asked. Mind you he has brought it all upon himself. If he claimed that a meeting took place 15 months ago, with 10 rescue groups, yet he never heard from any of them since. I was at that meeting and therre were only three rescue groups present. Furthermore the lawyer representing two of the groups personally gave Steve Coleman their contact details thus fulfilling Coleman&#8217;s requirement that a representative from each group given him their contact details. In fact it was the rescue groups, who never heard anything further, not the other way around.</p>
<p>Coleman also claimed on SBS that the RSPCA&#8217;s kill rate for dogs was only 27%. Meanwhile the state govt&#8217;s companion animal taskforce published very different figures for the RSPCA back in May of this year. Without a doubt the government report stated that the RSPCA has a kill rate of 44% or, to break it down into raw figures, it was 16 347 dogs taken in and 7 246 euthanised for the period reporting 2010-11. In comparision the state&#8217;s pound system has a kill rate of 28%. Again in raw figures that&#8217;s 47 808 dogs brough into the system and 13 707 euthanised.</p>
<p>So the question really has to be answered: why is the pound system far superior to the RSPCA? Afterall the core busines of the RSPCA is supposed to be for the care and welfare of animals. Yet the RSPCA has a dreadful kill ratio, even though it deals with almost three times less than the pound system, whilst both systems take in surrenders, the old, the sick, &amp; the injured. And this is despite the fact that the RSPCA made a $12 million profit, for the year reporting 2010-11, whilst not one pound makes any money nor does any community companion animal rescue group.</p>
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<p>Really, what would happen to these unwanted animals if it wasn&#8217;t for the RSPCA??? Think about it.<br />
The problem lays with society. Uneducated pet owners who only get a puppy or kitten for that cute factor and then realise the costs or they have no idea how to train them. Fair enough having a no kill policy, but there has to be people out there that will adopt these animals. No good having a no kill policy if these animals are just going to sit there and hope to be one day adopted, it may take days, months, years to finally be adopted. And as for the costs of animals from the pound, if $300 is too much for you, imagine the vet bill of an animal when it hurts itself. Some of these bills can be $4000!!<br />
Fix the problem with stupid pet owners and then maybe the rate of animals dumped at the pound will drop.</p>
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<p>There is a difference between killing  and euthanasia. Sadly, sometimes it is necessary to euthanase  eg: for medical reasons or if an animal has extreme behaviours that can not be corrected. This is different to killing because at the time they have no permanent home. YES, there is an oversupply problem in Australia &#8230; this needs to be addressed urgently: not by talking but doing. What is the RSPCA doing to solve this situation?<br />
Welfare groups work hard to provide the &#8220;ambulance at the bottom of the cliff&#8221;, it is time the government/councils legislate for measures to create the &#8220;barrier at the top&#8221;. The RSPCA could be more active in making this happen.I</p>
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<p>A review of Animal welfare is long overdue &amp; the RSPCA a good starting point. IMO all shelters/pounds should be working towards No kill/Getting 2 Zero. The larger organisations must lead the way</p>
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<p>I know of people who used to work at an RSPCA shelter and left because they were disillusioned with what was happening. Council pounds also receive sick, injured, abused, neglected and unwanted animals and have a much lower kill rate. The RSPCA needs to be accountable to the people whose donations support it.</p>
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<p>I agree completely.  The RSPCA is seen by the average Australian as caring &#8220;for all creatures great and small&#8221;.  So people donate to them, taking money from the smaller, volunteer-run, grassroots organisations who are left to pick up the slack.  The RSPCA *is* deceptive.  It happily receives the donations from hard-working Australians who think that money will be used to save lives.</p>
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<p>Does anyone else think Steve Coleman was a slimey looking character. As soon as you saw his face on SBS insight you could tell he should not be the one representing RSPCA.</p>
<p>After watching the tail end i was so heartbroken on how this happens in such a modern society.</p>
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<p>Council pounds also have an open door policy, yet most have a much lower kill rate than the RSPCA. The RSPCA needs to explain their behavioural testing which results in so many deaths. If they can defend it then why will they not explain it?</p>
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<p>How many animals go to the pound compared to the RSPCA each day?</p>
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<p>From above, the RSPCA get &#8217;16 347 dogs taken in and 7 246 euthanised for the period reporting 2010-11. In comparision the state&#8217;s pound system has a kill rate of 28%. Again in raw figures that&#8217;s 47 808 dogs brough into the system and 13 707 euthanised.&#8217;</p>
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<p>I currently own a dog that was deemed unsuitanle by the ACT RSPCA.  A small cute maltese but its elderly owner was going into a nursing home and couldn&#8217;t take it.  She lived down the road and was heart broken when the ACT RSPCA wouldn&#8217;t take him due to aggression problems. She was going to have to follow their advise and have him put down.  So I now have another dog. Yes initially he had problems but now are all sorted and he is the most loving dog.  So I have to wonder how many dogs like him have been murdered by all RSPCA&#8217;s &#8211; not just NSW.  Time to come clean RSPCA</p>
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<p>In 2008 RSPCA seized Geraldine Robertson&#8217;s poodles for their own profit from the sale of the dogs and for donations for those &#8220;poor neglected poodles&#8221;. RSPCA gained over $2.5 Million profit from their lies. RSPCA then lied to the media and in court. Lies included that her dogs had maggots on them, they were starv3ed and malnourished, that three healthy puppies that died from starvation died because of hook worms being Geraldine Robertson&#8217;s neglect etc. The media showed beautiful poodles on clipping tables then the words were about the poor malnourished neglected poodles.</p>
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<p>I have my own views for the RSPCA. I have had my own personal drams with them, however i feel we should not be attacking them as such now. Efforts should be focused on the public. Something needs to be done to make breeding dogs and cats undesirable for people. Maybe we should join forces in making it law to be registered to be able to breed animals. This registration should mean that all dogs the are used for breeding are recorded, all animals bred are recorded and anyone found with an undesexed animal, especially breeding, are faced with very high fines. These people registered should be subjected to random inspections to make sure everything is adhered too. Has anyone with authority actually gone through facebook and other sites such as petlink etc and charged the people giving away puppies, dogs, kittens and cats that do not have microchips? It is by law to have this, even when giving animals away and each day I see more and more adds with animals not microchipped. What was the point introducing a law no one keeps? I feel these issues are more important than focusing all efforts on an organisation that at the very least rehomes animals microchipped, desexed and vaccinated. And what about pet shops? Maybe we should introduce a law to make them have to have all puppies and kittens desexed before leaving for their new homes.</p>
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<p>Thanks KA</p>
<p>The issue about high kill rate needs to be made public. RSPCA have known about this for years. They have been participants in the killing.</p>
<p>A shame it is up to the media and animal lovers to make the public aware of this. Unless there is awareness there will not be changes.</p>
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<p>we tryed adopting a kitten from our local shelter and it was going to cost us nearly $300  , my husband said if the adoption costs were cheaper more people would be open to re homing .  and as for coe they should have a pay cut and that money go back into centres to help care for these animals .</p>
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<p>Exactly how do you think the shelters are supposed to make it cheaper to adopt the cats/dog when they pay for them to be vaccinated &amp; desexed!! why dont you go buy yourself a petshop cat &amp; see how fast the costs start to mount up. I guarantee it will amount to much more than $300.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oct. 6, 2012, 4 a.m. Companion Animal lawyer Anne Greenaway&#8217;s challenge to a televised debate has not been answered by RSPCA chief executive officer Steve Coleman yet. The Daily Liberal contacted Mr Coleman&#8217;s office Tuesday and was informed he was on leave and unable to make a comment. Ms Greenaway&#8217;s challenge has been meet with [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<div><time datetime="Oct. 6, 2012, 4 a.m.">Oct. 6, 2012, 4 a.m.</time></div>
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<p>Companion Animal lawyer Anne Greenaway&#8217;s challenge to a televised debate has not been answered by RSPCA chief executive officer Steve Coleman yet.</p>
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<p>The Daily Liberal contacted Mr Coleman&#8217;s office Tuesday and was informed he was on leave and unable to make a comment.</p>
<p>Ms Greenaway&#8217;s challenge has been meet with mixed emotions by readers who have expressed their varied opinions on the Daily Liberal website.</p>
<p>A recent poll on the website indicated 94.2 per cent of readers were in favour of Steve Coleman answering allegations of engaging in &#8220;misleading and deceptive conduct&#8221;.</p>
<p>The debate continues three days later in the comment section under the October 2 story, State debate proposed for RSPCA on Animal Kill Rates.</p>
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